Tanex

[jj]

I'm always glad to hear when someone has found something that works well. And that forgetfulness pays off sometimes. LOL

Wishing you good luck with the school. I hope you are happy with it.

[meli]

Well I have some good news FINALLY! We went to look at the school today and It seems really good! It seems to be the right fit for Robert! Well The insurance is fine the BOOBS on the Phone that told me there was no one with in 100 miles was not giving the correct info! So The Dr. The ped suggested will work just fine!
So that is good news! Maybe there is light at the end!

We gt and Apt. With the new Psy. for next week thursday So wish me lucK with him!

The tenex is working out a little better not getting up at night as much but when I bumped the dose up to .5mg instead of .25 he fell asleep in the middle of the day again but Lets hope he adjusts to this new dose soon!

The last two days of school have been awful! He has been doing crazy and weird things. Like walking on window sills and trying to jump from table to table! I don't know what his problem is! He dose not act like that at home! School has been sending him home will nilly all week! I think they are just sick of dealing with him! He is looking forward to the new school. At least we have that going for us!

I will keep every one posted! And thanks for all your support! I am so thankful to have you all here for me!

P.S. Thanks for all the birthday wishes! I got to go to dinner with my bestfriend and then played bingo till after 1am! it was awsome!!!!!!! (I was a Bingo virgin! )

[meli]

He went to the new school on firday and it went pretty well. The have a chart where the evaluate them every 15min. If they get a x they did good if they get an o they were off task. They record all their time outs. They use 123 magic there. They also have an isolated room if they can't get it to gether in there time out! They call it the cool it room. I think he is going to do very good there. I also have to pack his lunch and snacks everyday so that will help with he diet he is on. That he has no corn surup or dyes or artificial things. His day is shorter from 835 to 235. And he will only have home work twice a week.

We will see the new Dr. on thursday. The tenex is starting to worry me. He is still waking up in the middle of the night. Last night he would of left the house if the cain was not on. I woke up to him trying to open the door with it slamming because it would not open. Has anyone else had this sleepwalking and turning on lights and trying to leave?

sometimes he remembers what he did in the middle of the night. The other day he woke up saying his ankles hurt so I gave him some tylonal (he was crying) and he fell back alseep. He remembered that in the morning but when he was awake in the night I had a hard time tellinhg if he was awake or not. This is starting to freak me out.

He is still calling names and swearing all the time and I don't know what to do to stop him! I put soap in his mouth and he swears at me for puting soap in his mouth. So I send him on a time out he swaers and calls names in the timwe out. So I add time and he calls me names for adding time. I have filicked him mouth and I get the same thing more name calling and swears at me. My husband and him get pretty heated and he still dose the same things with him! I have tried taking what ever it was that he swared about away. he just swares more! I just don't know what to do! I want to duct tape him mouth shut. ( he mostly says Sh** A** and Da** It Stupid idiot baby is a favorite also!)
The wost part is his sister who is three is now repeating him. I have to stop this and fast!

Any suggestions? I am ready to buy stock in duct tape! LOL

[misty]

Have you tried just totally ignoring the swearing? It sounds like he may be loving the reactions he's getting out of you. When he starts swearing, just stop interacting completely with him. It might take a couple weeks, but if hes thriving on the reaction & he stops getting any (reactions) he should eventually stop swearing.

[puzzled]

I have had no issue with the sleepwalking meli, and I can see how it would be a huge worry! I would definitely ask the doctor about it....is it listed as one of the possible side effects? I can't remember....Chase has slept so much better since he started the tenex, only needs the melatonin occasionally, where before he needed it nightly.

The swearing I also haven't had too much experience with except for the times that each of my kids tried it out....usually around age 3 or 4....each time was brief, and I did use soap (I know all the experts say not to....) but it worked for me...

Perhaps he is continuing it for the reaction he receives....and having the 3 year old repeating it makes it difficult to ignore it...

I wonder if you could calmly (I know it is hard to stay calm) say to either one of them, "I do not like to hear that language, if you want me to listen to you, you need to use nice words" and keep repeating that or a similar phrase calmly until better language is used....remove him from public if he uses it in public, and say, "You know that is not the kind of language we use with our friends, when you can use nice words you can come back outside (or whatever he was doing).

I don't know if that will work, it is what I did if a child used bad language at preschool, and what I do in my home daycare...we could not use any other methods, and this did work if you stay consistent.

Barring that, I would use the resources at the new school, ask them what they suggest you do, they may have a good plan for you to try.

Good luck, I will send patience thoughts your way!

[meli]

Mostly the swearing seems to be when he is angry or frustrated. Then when he is punished it just make the anger worse, then more swearing! I tried the ignore thing and that is when the 3 year old started to repeat it. The time outs are working for her.
I tried taking away tokins fro swearing but then he had nothing to take away even with starting every day with automaic ten tokins!

I think I will just keep sending him to his room and tell him he can come out when he uses better chocies in words! And that he can't have the door open if he is still using that languge. And that he can't go anywhere with friends (in the neiborhood untill he is done using these words) We will sit down and choose some diffrent thigs to say when he is upset. We had done this in the past. We came up with silly words so maybe it will work again!

I will ask the school if they have any suggestions too!

I know he feeds off my reactions( thank you for reminding me) but some times he just makes me so mad! And he know that the name calling and swearing just pushes my buttons! He needs consistancy and I struggke with that! I give up to easily when i know if I just kept it up it would pay off!

I don't like stucture or routien and I know he dose. Its a daily struggle for me. But I am getting better!


Keep throwing Ideas my way I can use all the help I can get!

[puzzled]

Meli I know it is hard to not get frustrated....keep up the good work and it will work out.

I think the silly word substitutions may be just the ticket. Make a big deal out of the 'secret'. That when he says these words, no one will know that what he really wanted to say was a swear word. When you hear him say one of them, catch his eye and give him a secret smile, just between the 2 of you.....it may work!

The 3 year old is not too young to learn about making choices. Explain to him/her that just because brother is making bad choices it is no excuse for them to do it as well. Give the 3 year old different silly word substitutions so as not to take away from the specialness for robert.....

[meli]

Thanks chasesmom! Those are great ideas! He is definetly the kind of kid that would work with!

We went to the new Dr. yesterday and he seems very good! He actually trained the old psyc. from the daytreatment program! And the ped recomended him! What a small world! Well nothing med wise got accomplished at this visit it was more of a get to know us and ds type of visit. He will meet with Robert in a week! I gave him tons or behavior sheets from all the diferent teachers he has had and a copy of his IEP so he has to look over all of that too. He wants to make sure the ADHD is the right diagnosis also! Of course I have no dought, But there maybe some ODD in the mix as well! Iam glad that he is tacking the time to find out what kind of kid he is and his history before just prescribing a med!

The swearing has gotten better now we are working on the stupid Idiot baby comments!

Well I have to run. I have tons of shopping to do! ;D