HELP OR ADVICE SOMETHING???????

[Tigger]

OK this is such a long story but it all fits together and i am not sure what to do tell i see the psych. i have been trying to call him but he never returns my calls lately well here it goes about a few weeks ago the psych decide after talking to me and mike that he would call the school and talk to the therapist but he ended up talking to alto of people about my son and came to the conclusion that he is depressed so he put him on celexa but it was going to be a small dose so i have to cut the pill in half and it would be only 5mg in the morning well after a few days of taking it michael came up to me and told me that these pills are not right so i said to him lets just give it a few more days and if you still feel the same i will call the psych and take you off them well the next day mike and i had a therapist app with michael and Nicole's therapist and she had asked me what i thought of these pills and at this point i told her what michael said to me and she told me that he possibly cannot be feeling this way because there is no way he can notice tell afetr a month and adviced me not to take him off of them then she started to tell me and mike that he is not listening at school that he is getting up and telling the teachers that he is sick of doing work and is not going to do anymore and then he also threatned to bring a knife to school mike turned around and said and you think these pills are good for him and she said yes i think we should give it a month well i had stopped them a few days after that because we could not control him and then with my daughter she even asked how i thought she was doing and i told her on these she might be doing OK at school but at home she don't eat and she is loosing weight and she told me that it aint the pills she is acting out and i know it is the pills because the psych told us if these pills stop her from eating to let him know right away well i am also telling the Dr about this therapist but any hows back on my son i am dressing him in the mornings!!! he wont dress himself he will stay alseep even if i put a cup of ice cold water on him he will just go back to sleep so i dress him put his socks and shoes on and shove him out the door i don't know what to do any more with him maybe you all have an idea i cant get ahold of the psych i have tried for the past 2 days but we do go see him at 8:30 in the morning next Thursday i am also going to get the psych to help us find a new therapist a therapist that advices against the psych to me is not a good one well maybe you all think different opr maybe you all have different opinion's i am just trying to see what you all think or maybe there is a better way of going around this please help any one i am desperate

[jj]

Tigger, Your son threatened to bring a knife after he was on Celexa because if it was after and he never said this sort of thing before I'd not want him on them either. Not to mention how sleepy he is in the mornings and if I understand you right he is harder to control?

I hope you can get the Psych to call you back.

[charliegirl]

I think you did the right thing. Any time a child starts an antidepressant and develops extreme anger or rage, you should question it. Since he stopped being that way once you took him off, the chances are that it is the Celexa.

A therapist has no medical training. She may have never seen these side effects but that doesn't mean they aren't possible. The fact that she thinks there couldn't possibly be any change in less than a month shows that she doesn't know enough to be a trustworthy advisor on medical issues. People all metabolize differently.

The only way you can know for sure is to talk to his psych. Follow through on the things we discussed in our IMs and let us know what you find out.

(((hugs)))

[Tigger]

jj said:

Tigger, Your son threatened to bring a knife after he was on Celexa because if it was after and he never said this sort of thing before I'd not want him on them either. Not to mention how sleepy he is in the mornings and if I understand you right he is harder to control?

I hope you can get the Psych to call you back.

JJ yes he is much harder to control and yes it was while he was on the meds that he threatened to bring a knife to school and he didnt say it to me he told a teacher and the teacher brought it to the principal but the therapist is the one that told me and she told me if we dont talk to him and get it straighnted out that he will be expelled but i did hear from the psych but it was from my case manager and she told me that she will be talking to the dr today and she will let him know and for nicole she said that it sounds to her that the anit depressant meds are not working so she will let him know on that to i wont find out any more on any of this tell next thrusday buit iwill keep all of you posted on what happens and cg i will follow thru with what we talked about ok i am so glad i have alll of you for friends i wouldnt know what to do if i didnt have a place to come and vent i think i would go nuts thanik you all

[jill]

I say if you do not hear from the therapist get another for the back and forth and waiting game is not good. Is there an emergency on call number you can call? I would be going crazy and would do the same stop the med.

[misty]

I agree with Jill.....get a new psych or therapist if you cannot get this one to see you when you have an emergency.

I know we already talked in IM, but I want to reiterate that you can feel free to IM me any time you need to talk. I don't know much about antidepressants but I do know how it feels to be scared & worried.

[lostmyshoe]

Oh gosh tigger, my heart goes out to you for what you are going through. I would definitely look into a new psych. You should NEVER be ignored or have to wait like that. I agree with you about stopping the medication. I have been on Zoloft myself and never had any kind of a reaction like that. I am not familiar with Celexa. With the Zoloft it did take me a good few weeks before my depression began to lift and I had no side affects except for my appetite. It happened when I lost my Dad 3 years ago this coming May. I do have ADD myself and am prone to anxiety at very stressful times so my doctor prescribed the Zoloft right away. It worked for me but I've heard of side affects with that too. Everyone responds differently. The correct diagnosis and medication is so important and so is having the doctor that is right for you. So sorry that this psych doesn't seem to be supporting you like he should. I hope you find one that will better be able to help your son. It sounds like you are having such a hard time but please know that you are not alone. Wishing you the best and hoping you will get the help you need for your son soon. Please take care and I hope things will get better for you soon. IM me anytime too. Hugs to ya.

[katiekat]

I know from experience that it's hard to find a good psych. but I would definitely start looking for a new one. Sorry you are going through this.

[Tigger]

ok so everyone knows i go tomorrow to the pscyh to talk to him with all the problems i am having so i will let you all know what happenes ok i need to do something

[Tigger]

well i got some news on the situation i am in with all of this we went and talked to the psych this morning and he had told us basically to ignore the therapist then i popped up and said can we just get a new one because i cant deal with her and right away my case manager told me yes and she would get started on it right away then the psych decided to take michael off of the adderall xr completely because he feels that it aint helping one bit so from that i am more excited about the new therapist i cant wait to see what kit (therpaist) does well if any of you have any questions i am sure i am just skipping alot of details i have alot going thru my mind at the moment so i am not really into writing so maybe one of you have something to ask ok