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Post by jill on Sept 18, 2009 7:04:31 GMT -5
She decided to go across the street to the park and called me from her phone that she was there so I figured I would give it a try she did okay. The next day she tells me some kids older ones were saying things to her so I taught her to ignore and to stay away well she went to the park again and I get a call from someone we know in the neighborhood who reported 5 of the little SOB'S were harassing her and had surrounded her . Angela is her name and she has been here her whole life and she knows all the punks in the area and she did chase them away and yelled at them and I did hear they scrambled away in fear. Angela was a punk at one time and had her child is Nette's age and she had her at age 16 and has worked for the parks and rec center in the neighborhood why she knows everyone. So now when she goes out I am in fear they will bother her again so I am going out with her. 3 of the punks are her age and go to her school and believe it or not are triplets and the other two are in middle school. The triplets mother I have tried to say hello to when I have run into her somewhere and she acted like a snob and appeared witchy so talking to her may be useless.
Should I get the school involved? My concern is this is occurring after school not in school I hate bullies. I am now looking into self defense stuff and did save the website someone posted awhile back to start. It is a shame she is doing well with a little independence but I can't let her have it in fear of the little SOB's. Any advice welcome for I am unsure what to do at this point,
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Post by charliegirl on Sept 19, 2009 20:01:54 GMT -5
I read this yesterday and it hit too close to home for me to be able to answer then. I still worry every time my son leaves the house unless he is with a family member because of the couple of kids in town I don't trust.
I don't know what to tell you other than to report it to the school and to the police. You don't need to press charges but if they know the kids who are doing this and they get in trouble for something else, it will help them know just how bad the kids are. As young as they are, chances are some of them are already familiar with law enforcement.
I found out less than a year ago that if a kid is on probation (and they can be that young), if their probation officers are made aware of it, they can take steps to stop the little punks. I wish I had known years ago.
You aren't alone and its just not easy to trust our kids on their own because of the punks. Its very hard to get a child to understand it isn't that you don't trust them, its the other kids you worry about.
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Post by katiekat on Sept 19, 2009 22:19:03 GMT -5
A while back these 2 idiots that go to school with Joe were crank calling my house and like the rest of the world I have caller ID. Anyway I called the principal b/c they started saying stuff to him at school and he told me that they have the "Zero tolerance for bullying" policy and things that are done outside of school, even on the phone or computer, are punishable at school. And they did get in trouble at school so I would definitely call the principal.
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Post by jill on Sept 20, 2009 10:15:50 GMT -5
I am looking into tak won doe some kind of martial arts and yes another expense and more running for me but if she can take care of herself then it is worth it. I put in a call to the school Social Worker as a start but she has not yet gotten back to me. Annette is a busy girl when I add this between her private OT and dance on Fridays.
AS for the probation thing I do not believe any are on it and it would be funny for I work in the same building as probation officers and in family court a lot and know the judge that deals with delinquents and County Attorney. Yep if it goes that far they are so in trouble for I do know a few of the probation officers already due to part of my job.
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Post by katiekat on Sept 20, 2009 17:23:44 GMT -5
I know when Sean took Karate one thing that they are very adamant about is that you never use what you learn in class on people outside of the classroom. They talked about it every single week before class started, and were told that if it was found out that they did they would be asked to leave.
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Post by misty on Sept 20, 2009 22:09:27 GMT -5
Shannon took karate when she was little & what KK said is true. BUT it does teach a lot of self discipline so I still think it's a good idea & if she had to actually defend herself from being harmed, she's have the confidence & moves at her disposal. I think it's a good idea.
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Post by jfla on Sept 21, 2009 12:14:06 GMT -5
Martial arts was great for my kids, adhd or not. I am sorry that my daughter had dropped her interest by the time I got around to persuing it for her for confidence/self-defense reasons. (i think she ended up learning fencing (not too sure how much that would help in self defense)
for my boys it was great! for the adhder because of the development of attention, self discipline and standing up for oneself when physically attacked. You see my kids actually never hit or got physically aggressive with each other. And he often compared it to dance which he also loved. (he did dance, martial arts, soccer.)
for my non adhd, very uncompetitive boy, he learned about being physical and it gave him an enormous amount of confidence. It carried over to being comfortable to wanting to play and be competitive in soccer.
I encourage the learning of martial arts.
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Post by jj on Sept 22, 2009 1:35:44 GMT -5
I'd like to go knock those punk kids heads together. That just makes me mad and sad that she can't just go to the park and enjoy herself. Grrr. I don't have any advise but I agree with what the others have mentioned. I actually didn't know the school might get involved for happenings outside the school so that is good to know. Of course that may not be all schools.
At some point in every kids life they will get picked on. But it usually doesn't last. Maybe give it another shot, especially if she still wants to go anyway. Maybe you could follow her at a far distance on foot or in your car and if those punks seem to be harassing her, you could magically appear and scare the heck out of them. ;D
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Post by jill on Sept 23, 2009 7:08:59 GMT -5
The one I found has a bully thing built in the curriculum where they teach the kids how to stand up to them and talk them down and how to deflect if attacked the least restrictive for protection only that I like. They also have a stranger danger piece included which teaches the kids what to do if a stranger tries to grab them and how to try to escape. The downside the cost part will be $199 Saturday when she goes back will include her clothes and what she needs and for 6 months it will be $99 for 6 months starting in November and then the cost after 6 months will be $139. I do not know if this is going rate or a good deal for it was the first place I called but like it. oh class sizes are small like the group she is in is 5 kids Nette included. They said they will work on the listening, focus, etc and they did some game where he did everything to distract and made them focus and Nette did pretty good so I told Annette at school to focus on the teacher doing what they taught her so we will see.
My new life schedule is Tuesdays and Saturdays tak kwon doe, Dance Fridays, OT Wednesdays and we could do the tak kwon doe another day but I am booked as it is call me soccer mom.
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Post by jill on Sept 23, 2009 7:09:51 GMT -5
I'd like to go knock those punk kids heads together. That just makes me mad and sad that she can't just go to the park and enjoy herself. Grrr. I don't have any advise but I agree with what the others have mentioned. I actually didn't know the school might get involved for happenings outside the school so that is good to know. Of course that may not be all schools. At some point in every kids life they will get picked on. But it usually doesn't last. Maybe give it another shot, especially if she still wants to go anyway. Maybe you could follow her at a far distance on foot or in your car and if those punks seem to be harassing her, you could magically appear and scare the heck out of them. ;D I wish
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