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Post by anon4now on Apr 7, 2008 19:58:47 GMT -5
JJ, I'm so going to print that out. That's sort of what I've been looking for. I made one up myself this past weekend, but I haven't printed it thinking is amateur-ish.
Thanks everyone, I might go peeking around in other areas of the board.
Anon
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Post by squirrelgirl on Apr 7, 2008 20:19:58 GMT -5
Thanks, Anon! We'll give it a try! I am open to any and all ideas!
I'm definitely not an expert here, but I was thinking generally about the diagnosis of ADHD (hyper/impulsive).
My ds is also hyperactive/impulsive (along with my personal dx of drama king), and I feel confident in our case, that the psych's diagnosis of ADHD is on target. My reasoning is due to the phenomenal improvement in his behavior while on medication vs. off.
I think a non-ADHD child wouldn't find any benefit from stims. They might get excited/distracted while on it (I guess).
Forgive me if I missed it somewhere in the thread, but is your child taking medication? If so, does he respond well to it?
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Post by anon4now on Apr 8, 2008 6:59:32 GMT -5
My son was put on ritalyn 3 years ago and it put him to sleep. Then when he woke up, he was 10x's more hyper. I am not lieing when I say there were shoe prints on my walls. The doctor referred me to a neurologist. With bi-polar in family history, he prescribed depakote. (sp) I didn't put him on it. I got scared of trying all these pills etc. With advice from my mom, I looked into food allergies, and found he's allergic to milk (by self-diagnosis) so I'm thinking of taking him to an allergist to see if there is any other allergies that might be contributing to some of his behaviors. All I know is he's a very complicated little boy. Ok, that pic is just too funny. So to answer your question...no he's not on medication. And the one I tried didn't work well for him. Anon
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Post by jj on Apr 8, 2008 12:41:46 GMT -5
I think you were wise to not continue the Ritalin because if you suspect Bipolar, this med can actually trigger the mania and depression (mood swings). The psych was wise prescribing Depakote. I do understand the fear of trying these meds. They are serious medications. I do know that Omega's are said to help bipolar but how much, I don't know. I'm glad your going to be tracking your sons moods. BTW: I searched and searced for "the parent version" of the tracking chart and I just can't find it. I'm so disappointed because it was really exactly what you would need.
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Post by rakuflames on Apr 8, 2008 15:31:21 GMT -5
I think you were wise to not continue the Ritalin because if you suspect Bipolar, this med can actually trigger the mania and depression (mood swings). The psych was wise prescribing Depakote. I do understand the fear of trying these meds. They are serious medications. I do know that Omega's are said to help bipolar but how much, I don't know. I'm glad your going to be tracking your sons moods. BTW: I searched and searced for "the parent version" of the tracking chart and I just can't find it. I'm so disappointed because it was really exactly what you would need. I think if there's any chance of bipolar it needs to be explored carefully. If a child has both, once the bipolar is under control a lot of times stimulants can be used. I had one student with bipolar whose parents tried O-3's when it was still very new. It was tremendously helpful for this child. In addition his med for the bipolar seemed to work better as well. This child was headed for life in an institution, and O-3's were part of turning things around him so much that he was able to stay in his regular classrom (with supports.) He also had Asperger's so he had a lot on his plate.
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Post by jj on Apr 8, 2008 16:39:22 GMT -5
I think you were wise to not continue the Ritalin because if you suspect Bipolar, this med can actually trigger the mania and depression (mood swings). The psych was wise prescribing Depakote. I do understand the fear of trying these meds. They are serious medications. I do know that Omega's are said to help bipolar but how much, I don't know. I'm glad your going to be tracking your sons moods. BTW: I searched and searced for "the parent version" of the tracking chart and I just can't find it. I'm so disappointed because it was really exactly what you would need. I think if there's any chance of bipolar it needs to be explored carefully. If a child has both, once the bipolar is under control a lot of times stimulants can be used. I had one student with bipolar whose parents tried O-3's when it was still very new. It was tremendously helpful for this child. In addition his med for the bipolar seemed to work better as well. This child was headed for life in an institution, and O-3's were part of turning things around him so much that he was able to stay in his regular classrom (with supports.) He also had Asperger's so he had a lot on his plate. Ruku, I don't want to take this off-topic but do you know how this kid is doing now? Just curious. He did have a lot to deal with.
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Post by katiekat on Apr 8, 2008 17:43:56 GMT -5
Anon-My stepson is diagnosed with bipolar and ADHD and he was taking Depakote and it did absolutely nothing.The dosage was raised 3 times and still no effect. Later Adderall was added and still nothing. Not even the slightest change. However Abilify has been like a miracle drug for him. He also has a (possible) DX of Aspergers.
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Post by lillian on Apr 9, 2008 7:30:35 GMT -5
Have to concur with the Abilify. My sister, who has been dxed with major depression with some psychotic tendencies and has what I strongly suspect to be Asperger's, takes an anti-depressant and Abilify. Abilify has been a miracle drug for her, as well. Personally, I think it does more for her than the anti-depressant does. It's given her a somewhat "normal" life, where she is able to successfully live on her own, which is something all of us were doubting she would be able to do three years ago.
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Post by rakuflames on Apr 9, 2008 9:25:45 GMT -5
I think if there's any chance of bipolar it needs to be explored carefully. If a child has both, once the bipolar is under control a lot of times stimulants can be used. I had one student with bipolar whose parents tried O-3's when it was still very new. It was tremendously helpful for this child. In addition his med for the bipolar seemed to work better as well. This child was headed for life in an institution, and O-3's were part of turning things around him so much that he was able to stay in his regular classrom (with supports.) He also had Asperger's so he had a lot on his plate. Ruku, I don't want to take this off-topic but do you know how this kid is doing now? Just curious. He did have a lot to deal with. No, I don't, I moved away. But the school did do back flips to help him, which is a huge advantage. He had a full time aide assigned only to him, and that person was trained in autism and then received a lot of support (along with the rest of the staff) from autism experts hired by the school district (large school district). All of those things helped, but the Omegas helped so much that by Wednesday it was really, really obvious (they had started them the weekend before) and by the following weekend I was on the phone with them for 45 minutes, patiently chatting about this and that unil they finally told me what had changed. But it really does take a lot. Papalos and Papalos explain it in their book THE BIPOLAR CHILD.
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